28 thoughts on “Records: Greater Detroit Hospital”
so were all the records moved next door?
in this case they midas well be left in the building
It’s in the neighborhood. These are different records.
whats up with GDH? no work being done on it people still looting there easier than ever to get in
did the deal fall apart?
longer it sits less chance it can be fixed
I’m supposed to meet with someone tomorrow who has been looking into it. I get the feeling that the purchaser has given up on saving the buildings and will be tearing them down.
Someone told me he saw two men loading an x-ray machine into a blue pickup the other day. He followed them to Sikora’s on Mt. Elliott where they were given a ticket by Detroit police for scrapping without a license.
ok cool
i guess tearing down is the last option left i feel they are to damaged to be saved
let us know what you find out
any word on your meeting?
if you notice anyone can now come in the building
the company that ownes it now is responsible for anything or anyone getting hurt in there the fence was never done and half hearted at best maybe they cut there lossess to i say tear it down cause this winter it could get bad very bad the boarded windows are actually a good thing for loiters NO ONE can see them
hopefully the building on the cornor of jos campu will have the records removed 1986? on some of them? WOW i bet my old files are in there
time to make the attorny general earn his salery agan guys
Although no one has gone in the direction of placing blame it should be noted that the resonsibility for this mess lies neither with the present owners of the hospital nor the upcoming ones–they have not committed the crimes. It seems their property was secured at one time. I believe the outrage should focus on the trespassing thieves and their employers. By employers I mean Sikora. Sikora, like any other employer, pays those who do them a service that ultimately leads to their profit. Like rape victims who get blamed for enticing the attack, we’re beginning to do the same–”She was asking for it.” Let’s not lose sight of the societal parasites that plague our community.
but what to do now? the building is no longer secure
and again a hazard that fence was never finished
time for some more action
ill be honest im suprised it has not been torched or
someone dead in there
owners or the city need to get to work on this place or tear it down
The fact that the hospital is in Detroit makes it harder for people living in Hamtramck to take action. I believe it’s the property owners responsibility to repel squatters and scrappers. The Detroit police are stretched pretty thin these days.
At this point it’s a dangerous structure and it seems like if citizens made enough noise, the county would have to tear it down and possibly repossess it.
I will tell you what to do to this building. Do everybody a huge favor and get a gas can and some matches and go in there and burn it. The unknowing potential victims of identity theft, possibly a rape victim, or the victim of some kind of theft even though they may not be able to thank you in person im sure they will be greatful. Do the community a favor and put an end to this.
i agree steve it is tough for hamtramck citizens to
complain
i know detroit takes forever to do anything is there a way to contact the new owners?
Thanks to Christine MacDonald of the Detroit News, the records are being removed.
Unfortunately, they are being unloaded at the plaza on the Hamtramck side. I heard that the plaza was just sold to the same doctor who bought the hospital, Dr. Issa, so I don’t get why they’re moving records over there. Maybe they are a housewarming gift.
I wish Dr. Issa would do the community a favor by paying legitimate workers to take what’s left of the old equipment to the scrap yard. It’s not like it’s good for anything.
the dr that owns the buildings at GDH better do something soon
As far as I know, the Plaza is still owned by the old owner. Dr Issa has not expressed any interest in the Plaza. There were a lot of buying groups trying to buy it, but the current owner always backed out of the deal. (I am guessing tax loss write off, just like GDH that he used to use to balance his other hospitals in the country)
As far as the records go, they should’ve stuck them in the plaza right away cause that’s where they are the safest. Second floor used to house the most recent documents and nobody ever got to see them, but as time went by and the old owner’s brother came around, he took matters into his own hands and burned the records in the plaza and dismissed the others as the City’s responsibility. This is the direct answer I got from him when I asked him about it.
I went for a walk through every year since the doors closed and each time it looked worse and worse and i expressed concern about the records, but nobody cared, they thought it was kind of funny to be able to find what their grandparents and god knows who else got done there.
My friend found his dad’s records dating back to 1969 when he had his operation and actually walked out with them!
We shall have to wait and see. Neighbors say that movers were loading things from the plaza onto trucks 2-3 weeks ago because it had sold. I doubt anyone else would want it with the hospital right across the street. I’ll send some follow-up e-mails when I get a chance.
Someone tipped me off to this news report on WDIV last night:
Fifty years of medical records, Social Security numbers and X-rays were found burning on a Salem Township farm Thursday.
When firefighters were called to respond to a fire, when they arrived, they found piles and piles of medical information burning, according to officials.
Investigators said there is evidence that this is not the first time dump trucks filled with records from Greater Detroit Hospital, which went bankrupt in 2000, have been burned on this property.
I’m actually sort of pleased that this happened because Dr. Kim is finally at the center of the investigation.
I just wish people would stop going in there and leave it in peace. My husband has screwed the plywood over the doors back on that place so many times and hookers and “urban explorers” keep prying them off to go in that place. Last summer some scrappers took the water meter and there was water gushing in there for a month until we called and complained enough. Abandoned buildings like that make my side of the neighborhood suffer because we are fighting with a huge city bureaucracy that doesn’t prioritize these buildings that do nothing but attract prostitutes and drug users that otherwise have no business on my street.
HI..I’m new to your site but my daughter Jill e mails you regularly. I am a HHS grad (1953), and my son, was botn at North Detroit General on Carpenter. I’m assuming this is the same facility were talking about. I cant believe what I’m seeing, because I havent been back to Hamtramck in over 20 years. What is the status of the hospital now? Thanks…
Hi Jerry! It is about half renovated right now. Last I heard, the owner was going before a board in Detroit to ask for help with cleaning up the other half. I think it was approved.
Do you remember the bar across the street? I heard the other day that is was called “the Waiting Room” back in the day. It caught fire a few months ago. The neighborhood is changing fast. I’d love to take a walk with you sometime to hear about the old neighborhood.
It was actually called Dr. Daves Waiting Room Lounge – owned by a Dr at the Hospital – great lunchs. Staff would meet there after work.
The bar across the street, was alittle east, and back then it was “Kuberts”. It was owned by Pete Kubert, and they had great fish and chips on Friday nights. The best was the “Old Mill” bar on Carpenter and Conant. It was an old bank converted, and had a little water wheel inside and great fish.On the corner of Carpenter and Gallagher was a grocery store owned by Henry Kloss. I still remember going in there with my folks and putting the whole bill on the “book”, and then you went and paid your bill when you got paid. Great memories…..My dad ran the Sec.of State office on Campau where you got your license plates…there was always a line blocks long on the last day.
Thanks for the reply.
Thanks again, Jerry. I have heard a lot of conflicting information about the Old Mill bar. Some people say it was on the corner of Klinger and Commor at one time. (You know, the Carpenter location is a mosque now.) Also, their business advertisements used to say something about being in Hamtramck Heights. No one seems to agree on what the boundaries of Hamtramck Heights are. What does it mean to you?
I never heard of Hamtramck Heights. Trust me..OLD MILL was on the corner of Carpenter and Conant, it used to be a bank before then. There was also a lumber yard right behind it to the west. The bar on Conant and Commor was “ginseys”..not sure of the spelling.
We used to go to the Conant theatre a lot, and right next door to the theatre was Ziggys candy store where you got a huge double dip ice cream cone for a dime. Further down Conant towards Carpenter was the Better Made Potato Chip store where we bought chips by the pound. Some will remember the Christmas tree they had there with all the real lead icicles. It was something.
Thanks
so what is happening with both buildings? i see the one has new windows and thats about it
the other is still boarded up and looks terrible
what is in store for both buidings?
Please remove the photo with Craig Jone’s social security number exposed.
Done, thanks for pointing that out.
SCOM, Dr. Dave wasn’t a doctor, he’s a friend of mine. It was just a name for the bar.
The Waiting Room Lounge was a blast back in the day the owner “Dave” was so cool…. I have so many great memories of that place…LOTS of drinkng and debauchery going on in there and I won’t even tell you what took place upstairs……LOL….Man I really MISS that place :)
so were all the records moved next door?
in this case they midas well be left in the building
It’s in the neighborhood. These are different records.
whats up with GDH? no work being done on it people still looting there easier than ever to get in
did the deal fall apart?
longer it sits less chance it can be fixed
I’m supposed to meet with someone tomorrow who has been looking into it. I get the feeling that the purchaser has given up on saving the buildings and will be tearing them down.
Someone told me he saw two men loading an x-ray machine into a blue pickup the other day. He followed them to Sikora’s on Mt. Elliott where they were given a ticket by Detroit police for scrapping without a license.
ok cool
i guess tearing down is the last option left i feel they are to damaged to be saved
let us know what you find out
any word on your meeting?
if you notice anyone can now come in the building
the company that ownes it now is responsible for anything or anyone getting hurt in there the fence was never done and half hearted at best maybe they cut there lossess to i say tear it down cause this winter it could get bad very bad the boarded windows are actually a good thing for loiters NO ONE can see them
hopefully the building on the cornor of jos campu will have the records removed 1986? on some of them? WOW i bet my old files are in there
time to make the attorny general earn his salery agan guys
Although no one has gone in the direction of placing blame it should be noted that the resonsibility for this mess lies neither with the present owners of the hospital nor the upcoming ones–they have not committed the crimes. It seems their property was secured at one time. I believe the outrage should focus on the trespassing thieves and their employers. By employers I mean Sikora. Sikora, like any other employer, pays those who do them a service that ultimately leads to their profit. Like rape victims who get blamed for enticing the attack, we’re beginning to do the same–”She was asking for it.” Let’s not lose sight of the societal parasites that plague our community.
but what to do now? the building is no longer secure
and again a hazard that fence was never finished
time for some more action
ill be honest im suprised it has not been torched or
someone dead in there
owners or the city need to get to work on this place or tear it down
The fact that the hospital is in Detroit makes it harder for people living in Hamtramck to take action. I believe it’s the property owners responsibility to repel squatters and scrappers. The Detroit police are stretched pretty thin these days.
At this point it’s a dangerous structure and it seems like if citizens made enough noise, the county would have to tear it down and possibly repossess it.
I will tell you what to do to this building. Do everybody a huge favor and get a gas can and some matches and go in there and burn it. The unknowing potential victims of identity theft, possibly a rape victim, or the victim of some kind of theft even though they may not be able to thank you in person im sure they will be greatful. Do the community a favor and put an end to this.
i agree steve it is tough for hamtramck citizens to
complain
i know detroit takes forever to do anything is there a way to contact the new owners?
Thanks to Christine MacDonald of the Detroit News, the records are being removed.
http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070815/METRO/708150395
Unfortunately, they are being unloaded at the plaza on the Hamtramck side. I heard that the plaza was just sold to the same doctor who bought the hospital, Dr. Issa, so I don’t get why they’re moving records over there. Maybe they are a housewarming gift.
I wish Dr. Issa would do the community a favor by paying legitimate workers to take what’s left of the old equipment to the scrap yard. It’s not like it’s good for anything.
the dr that owns the buildings at GDH better do something soon
As far as I know, the Plaza is still owned by the old owner. Dr Issa has not expressed any interest in the Plaza. There were a lot of buying groups trying to buy it, but the current owner always backed out of the deal. (I am guessing tax loss write off, just like GDH that he used to use to balance his other hospitals in the country)
As far as the records go, they should’ve stuck them in the plaza right away cause that’s where they are the safest. Second floor used to house the most recent documents and nobody ever got to see them, but as time went by and the old owner’s brother came around, he took matters into his own hands and burned the records in the plaza and dismissed the others as the City’s responsibility. This is the direct answer I got from him when I asked him about it.
I went for a walk through every year since the doors closed and each time it looked worse and worse and i expressed concern about the records, but nobody cared, they thought it was kind of funny to be able to find what their grandparents and god knows who else got done there.
My friend found his dad’s records dating back to 1969 when he had his operation and actually walked out with them!
We shall have to wait and see. Neighbors say that movers were loading things from the plaza onto trucks 2-3 weeks ago because it had sold. I doubt anyone else would want it with the hospital right across the street. I’ll send some follow-up e-mails when I get a chance.
Someone tipped me off to this news report on WDIV last night:
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/14018816/detail.html
(there’s video)
I’m actually sort of pleased that this happened because Dr. Kim is finally at the center of the investigation.
I just wish people would stop going in there and leave it in peace. My husband has screwed the plywood over the doors back on that place so many times and hookers and “urban explorers” keep prying them off to go in that place. Last summer some scrappers took the water meter and there was water gushing in there for a month until we called and complained enough. Abandoned buildings like that make my side of the neighborhood suffer because we are fighting with a huge city bureaucracy that doesn’t prioritize these buildings that do nothing but attract prostitutes and drug users that otherwise have no business on my street.
HI..I’m new to your site but my daughter Jill e mails you regularly. I am a HHS grad (1953), and my son, was botn at North Detroit General on Carpenter. I’m assuming this is the same facility were talking about. I cant believe what I’m seeing, because I havent been back to Hamtramck in over 20 years. What is the status of the hospital now? Thanks…
Hi Jerry! It is about half renovated right now. Last I heard, the owner was going before a board in Detroit to ask for help with cleaning up the other half. I think it was approved.
Do you remember the bar across the street? I heard the other day that is was called “the Waiting Room” back in the day. It caught fire a few months ago. The neighborhood is changing fast. I’d love to take a walk with you sometime to hear about the old neighborhood.
It was actually called Dr. Daves Waiting Room Lounge – owned by a Dr at the Hospital – great lunchs. Staff would meet there after work.
The bar across the street, was alittle east, and back then it was “Kuberts”. It was owned by Pete Kubert, and they had great fish and chips on Friday nights. The best was the “Old Mill” bar on Carpenter and Conant. It was an old bank converted, and had a little water wheel inside and great fish.On the corner of Carpenter and Gallagher was a grocery store owned by Henry Kloss. I still remember going in there with my folks and putting the whole bill on the “book”, and then you went and paid your bill when you got paid. Great memories…..My dad ran the Sec.of State office on Campau where you got your license plates…there was always a line blocks long on the last day.
Thanks for the reply.
Thanks again, Jerry. I have heard a lot of conflicting information about the Old Mill bar. Some people say it was on the corner of Klinger and Commor at one time. (You know, the Carpenter location is a mosque now.) Also, their business advertisements used to say something about being in Hamtramck Heights. No one seems to agree on what the boundaries of Hamtramck Heights are. What does it mean to you?
I never heard of Hamtramck Heights. Trust me..OLD MILL was on the corner of Carpenter and Conant, it used to be a bank before then. There was also a lumber yard right behind it to the west. The bar on Conant and Commor was “ginseys”..not sure of the spelling.
We used to go to the Conant theatre a lot, and right next door to the theatre was Ziggys candy store where you got a huge double dip ice cream cone for a dime. Further down Conant towards Carpenter was the Better Made Potato Chip store where we bought chips by the pound. Some will remember the Christmas tree they had there with all the real lead icicles. It was something.
Thanks
so what is happening with both buildings? i see the one has new windows and thats about it
the other is still boarded up and looks terrible
what is in store for both buidings?
Please remove the photo with Craig Jone’s social security number exposed.
Done, thanks for pointing that out.
SCOM, Dr. Dave wasn’t a doctor, he’s a friend of mine. It was just a name for the bar.
The Waiting Room Lounge was a blast back in the day the owner “Dave” was so cool…. I have so many great memories of that place…LOTS of drinkng and debauchery going on in there and I won’t even tell you what took place upstairs……LOL….Man I really MISS that place :)